Curse

Rhamia Darigaz · Mar 20, 2009, 07:10 PM // 19:10

i think everyone here knows how to deal with those pesky pve kiters
["you move like a dwarf!"]
omg is so sekzy liek gale but more om-nom-tastic with cripple and instant activation and WE=energy for l33t kd spam YEYE!!!1
moral: bring WE, not prage, to pve.

Bobby2 · Mar 20, 2009, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

That's really odd lol. All the time I play PvE, I've never had someone try to kite from me, even in HM. I think it might be because I use a MM on one of my heroes so all the minions running around is blocking them in.

Grawl say hi. But you're right: I run PRage for sheer awesomeness when I could just be running Frenzy.

...much like people clinging to Eviscerate for nostalgic reasons

_Nihilist_ · Mar 21, 2009, 12:53 AM // 00:53

Your minions are blocking them, ac1inferno. Grawl kite like mad. Also, if someone is running an AoE nuke bar (shame), mobs scatter like roaches when a light's turned on.

Gun Pierson · Mar 21, 2009, 01:36 AM // 01:36

Ok gentlemen, what's the best elite for a warrior hero in general? I normally use Warrior's Endurance, but now I'm wondering about Dragon Slash. Do heroes use that one effectively according to you?

Hugh Manatee · Mar 21, 2009, 11:23 AM // 11:23

For warrior heroes, [Skull Crack]. For real, they're effing vicious with it. give them that and a few cover conditions and they roll just about anything. the sword bar:

[skull crack][sever artery][gash][savage slash][flurry][for great justice]and other stuff, depending on the area, usually hex and or condition removal, sometimes [Shields up] or [Watch yourself].

They tend to spazz with D-slash, they sit with it charged but don't use it on re-charge. I recall trying them with WE but they seemed to need to have it activated for them too. Skull crack they save till something casts, then own the caster

Xhizors · Mar 21, 2009, 11:51 AM // 11:51

[Dragon Slash]
[Hundred Blades]
[Earth Shaker]
[Triple Chop]
[Eviscerate]

Shadow Own · Mar 21, 2009, 02:16 PM // 14:16

hundred blades
dragon slash
earth shaker
warriors endurance
whirling axe

for heroes- skull crack for sure

Lourens · Mar 21, 2009, 04:15 PM // 16:15

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

[build prof=w/any axe=12+1+1 stre=12+1][warrior's endurance][flail][power attack][/build]

Beats that.

["for great justice!"][flail][cleave][conjure lightning]

strength ftl put your points in air magic

ac1inferno · Mar 22, 2009, 12:04 AM // 00:04

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Originally Posted by Lourens

["for great justice!"][flail][cleave][conjure lightning]

strength ftl put your points in air magic

Don't need Air Magic, I spam [[Asuran Scan] because I have the energy.

Fastief · Mar 22, 2009, 10:24 AM // 10:24

[build prof=w/d scythe=12 stre=12+1+1][warrior's endurance][flail][power attack][Protector's Strike][Eremite's Attack][Asuran Scan][Pain Inverter][Resurrection Signet][/build]
pewpew

_Nihilist_ · Mar 23, 2009, 04:39 AM // 04:39

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Originally Posted by Lourens

["for great justice!"][flail][cleave][conjure lightning]

strength ftl put your points in air magic

Strength ftl? Are you smoking crack? ac1inferno has you beat on this one, Lourens...

Still, a 14 axe / 10 strength / 8 element with both Conjure X and A.Scan would be quite tasty... Mebbe even go 12 axe / 12 strenght / 8 element with Conjure X and A.Scan...

[Conjure [email protected]][Warrior's [email protected]][Drunken Master][Asuran Scan][Power [email protected]][Protector's [email protected]][[email protected]][empty]

qvtkc · Mar 23, 2009, 12:56 PM // 12:56

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

A WE warrior is going to be dishing out +36 damage every 3 seconds, deep wound every 5 adrenaline, and a 1/2 second attack with a possible additional 36 damage. An eviscerate warrior is going to be dishing out +29 damage and deep wound every 8 adrenaline, and +36 with possible deep wound every 7 adrenaline.

I don't think I need to tell you who wins out of that.

Why would you take Body Blow.

Hugh Manatee · Mar 23, 2009, 12:59 PM // 12:59

I'd just go 12/12 with 3 in air, you get +8 with 3(only 5 more, +13, with 8 in air), access to sentinels if you need them, 12 in your weapon.

_Nihilist_ · Mar 23, 2009, 09:54 PM // 21:54

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Originally Posted by qvtkc

Why would you take Body Blow.

He's not. Arkantos is referring to the damage from [Power Attack] and the possible bonus damage from [Protector's Strike] (if the target is hit while moving). Nowhere did Ark mention [Body Blow].

Stealth Bomberman · Mar 24, 2009, 01:23 AM // 01:23

[whirling axe] looks more pvpish to me. lost track of wars a while back so havent noticed many buffs, gettin back into em tho. sins are lame now......

ac1inferno · Mar 24, 2009, 01:38 AM // 01:38

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Originally Posted by qvtkc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

A WE warrior is going to be dishing out +36 damage every 3 seconds, deep wound every 5 adrenaline, and a 1/2 second attack with a possible additional 36 damage. An eviscerate warrior is going to be dishing out +29 damage and deep wound every 8 adrenaline, and +36 with possible deep wound every 7 adrenaline.

I don't think I need to tell you who wins out of that.

Why would you take Body Blow.

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Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

He's not. Arkantos is referring to the damage from [Power Attack] and the possible bonus damage from [Protector's Strike] (if the target is hit while moving). Nowhere did Ark mention [Body Blow].

Yes, he did. He said "+36 with possible deep wound every 7 adrenaline." That seems like [[Body Blow] to me. And you take [[Body Blow] over [[Executioner's Strike] in a Shock Axe build because it's only 2 less damage for one less adrenaline.

Paul Dawg · Mar 24, 2009, 04:52 AM // 04:52

All very true, but don't forget that heroes are pretty good with [earth shaker] too.

Quite right that they're not so great with [dragon slash]; in fact, sometimes you actually have to set them up with fewer than eight skills if you give them a [dragon slash] build, because they'll be wasting their time with inferior skills instead of spamming [dragon slash] on recharge. And [dragon slash] is really a human thing anyway, since it syncs so well with [brawling headbutt] and ["save yourselves!" (luxon)], neither of which heroes can use.

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Originally Posted by Hugh Manatee

For warrior heroes, [Skull Crack]. For real, they're effing vicious with it. give them that and a few cover conditions and they roll just about anything. the sword bar:

[skull crack][sever artery][gash][savage slash][flurry][for great justice]and other stuff, depending on the area, usually hex and or condition removal, sometimes [Shields up] or [Watch yourself].

They tend to spazz with D-slash, they sit with it charged but don't use it on re-charge. I recall trying them with WE but they seemed to need to have it activated for them too. Skull crack they save till something casts, then own the caster

Bobby2 · Mar 24, 2009, 08:39 AM // 08:39

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Originally Posted by Paul Dawg

All very true, but don't forget that heroes are pretty good with [earth shaker] too.

No they're not.

Paul Dawg · Mar 24, 2009, 04:24 PM // 16:24

When I'm in one of those missions that requires a warrior hero, I generally bring this guy:

[for great justice!][enraging charge][earth shaker][pulverizing smash][yeti smash][belly smash][lion's comfort][death pact signet]

Works well enough, even in HM. The problem, as usual, is that he doesn't realize how much better [earth shaker] is than all his other skills, and thus doesn't spam it on recharge. Also, it would be nice to add [flail], but he has no clue about how to cancel it. So I have to be satisfied with just [enraging charge].

Arkantos · Mar 24, 2009, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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Originally Posted by qvtkc

Why would you take Body Blow.

Because it's a pretty standard replacement for executioner's strike on axe bars.